If you have ever considered alternative forms of healing, this is the episode for you! Brenda Kiss has used her own journey of finding peace and healing from abuse to create and trademark Transformative Neuro-Reiki, a powerful method of healing that she has used to help hundreds of others on their recovery journey. 

To learn more about Brenda Kiss and her services, visit https://www.brendakiss.com 

To download her FREE e-book, Empowering Activities To Help You Now, click here.

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Alyssa Scolari: [00:00:23] Hey everybody. Welcome to episode five [six] of the Light After Trauma podcast. I’m your host, Alyssa Scolari. And today I have with me a very special guest, somebody that I know personally and professionally, name is Brenda kiss. Brenda is a transformative Neuro-Reiki master helping you turn your struggles into miracles to eliminate stress overwhelm anxiety, and to discover that missing piece to help feel guided, directed, connected, happy, allowing you to step out of the struggle into freedom.

She is a certified Neuro Associative Practitioner and Neuro-Linguistic Practitioner and Transformative Neuro-Reiki, Master combining a deep understanding of the mind and the power of energy healing to rapidly transform lives. So I am so excited to have her here today. And without further ado, I am going to turn it over to her cause I have a million questions.

So hi, Brenda, how are you?

Brenda Kiss: [00:01:55] Hi, Alyssa. Thanks so much for having me today.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:01:58] The pleasure is mine. I am so excited. I have so many cards questions for you. So the first one that I want to ask is you had this name trademarked, right? This Transformative Neuro-Reiki. What exactly does that mean? I’ve heard of Reiki before, but I don’t even really know what that means either.

So can you explain more about that?

Brenda Kiss: [00:02:23] Yeah. So it’s interesting. So years ago I was living in a place of hurt and victimhood. And I went through a couple of different processes for myself and those processes included neuroscience, energy, healing, and spirituality, but I had to piece it altogether with different practitioners and different people that I was working with.

After years of studying and after a huge transformation in my life, I put together a system to help people rapidly transform their lives through Neuro-Reiki , which combines neuroscience and energy healing and spirituality. So let me just break it down into smaller pieces.

So neuroscience, the understanding of human behaviors, the way our brain functions, the patterns that people make, how to literally take their association, their language, their physiology, and shift all that so that they can change their emotional state and live happier, right? Combine that with energy healing, which is the Reiki part, understanding how our energetic body works, how we are connected to an energy higher than ourselves and using that power to….

I want to say strengthen the change that the neuroscience makes. And then also working on the emotional piece, our mindset, because if we don’t change if we don’t work on changing our mindset, when we do these others, things are all short-term changes in my opinion, in my experience. So it’s really the combination of all three areas that the mind, body, and the soul; the emotional, the physical, and the mental.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:04:03] That’s fascinating. So I guess what I hear you saying is were in this place where you’re realized, which I think a lot of us get to where it’s okay, I have to go to this doctor for this. I have to go to this doctor for that. I have to go to for spiritual healing here for emotional healing what you saw as a need to be able to combine all these things.

Brenda Kiss: [00:04:27] Yes, absolutely. And through my own experience. This is going back, quite a few years ago I was searching for help. Which we’ll probably get into in a little bit, but I hadn’t really reached my breaking point, my bottom, like my flat point. And so I was reaching out for help all over the place and I found some really great mentors and guides all in the three areas: the mind, body, and soul. They guided me to make monumental changes in my life. And so what I did is I just took pieces that worked for me and put it into a proven system. And now I’ve helped hundreds of women change their life over the years.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:05:06] And you work specifically with women, right?

Brenda Kiss: [00:05:09] Yes. Mostly with women. Yes.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:05:12] Okay. And is there a certain reason why you have that specific population to work solely with women? Is that more just what you’re drawn to or…?

Brenda Kiss: [00:05:23] So when I started, when I opened up my practice, at first I was guided to, I don’t know if you believe in a higher power, but it was definitely guided to me to open up a practice. And I really didn’t want to. I was homeschooling three small kids. My youngest was one years old and my oldest was six years old and I was guided to, and I have three and one in the middle there, the one, four and six were my kids’ ages when I opened up my practice.

And so I was definitely guided to open my practice. And what happened was I was in a place where I was sexually abused as a child, date rapped twice in my late teenage years, battled eating disorder. I was an exercise buliemic and I was hurting all the time.

Even though I had a great life in the sense that I have amazing parents. I thought positively, I always had a positive outlook on life, but from having those traumas as a child, I had deep rooted belief systems that I wasn’t good enough and I didn’t deserve good things. And so what happened was when I went through my transformation, my heart just wanted to help more women like my old self. And so that’s really why I found my niche.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:06:41] Do you find that a lot of the women who come to you for help have experiences with sexual abuse?

Brenda Kiss: [00:06:52] I would say sexual abuse is very high, eating disorders as well. And actually recovery from drugs and alcohol, because I also, not that I was ever in recovery, but I probably could have gone to recovery for alcohol.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:07:09] Yeah. I tend to look at as a therapist, I tend to look at eating disorders, addiction, all as coping skills to suppress trauma, and more often than not, it can be sexual abuse, physical abuse. So that makes perfect sense.

Brenda Kiss: [00:07:32] My drinking wasn’t to suppress those feelings, to be honest with you, it was, I never felt comfortable in my skin, especially around men. So if I was going out and I was going to be around men, which makes no sense to be under the influence of alcohol around men, but I felt so more comfortable. My skin that I had to at the time, I felt like I had to drink in order to be okay with that.

It doesn’t ,logically, it doesn’t make sense, but in the emotional state that I was years ago, it made sense.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:08:07] Yeah, no. I actually think that makes perfect sense because a lot of times when I speak with my clients, or even in my own recovery PTSD, what we do is we get ourselves put in situations that are familiar to our past. Maybe being under the influence of alcohol and being vulnerable in order to be around men.

That was what was familiar to you. Like you were vulnerable because you said that you are a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. So then you continue to find ways to make yourself vulnerable around men as an adult. Does that make sense?

Brenda Kiss: [00:08:47] Yeah. So that’s definitely something I did. So those clients are definitely drawn to me. And, I think where the people in recovery, cause that seems to be a large crowd too. That comes to me. I have a huge family, a history of drug and alcohol abuse. So I just have a passion to help with people in that area as well.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:09:10] now, one of the things that you had said is I was spending my life in victimhood Can you a little bit more about what you mean by that?

Brenda Kiss: [00:09:26] So I would live life as if it was happening to me. And so I’ll give you a perfect example when I was growing up, the only thing I ever wanted to be growing up was a mother. And wanted to marry a rich guy to take care of me. So I could be a stay-at-home mom and just be with my children and love them.

I got exactly what I manifested. I found it a wonderful guy and he was a professional. He was able to provide for our family and I was able to stay home with my kids. And as much as I love my kids, what was happening was that I was still a victim in my story. So having three kids and having to stay home and breastfeed, and my husband got to go out with his friends and got to do this and all that and work and, be out amongst things outside of the house.

And, I would get mad at him and I would play a victim. That’s one, one area, right? Like it made no sense yet. I was “whoa is me.” I had to stay home with our three kids. You get to go, he was a, he used to DJ and he was an IT guy during the day. So he got to be out amongst adults talking and then I play the victimhood of I can’t keep a clean house.

Like I have three children under the age of five. How do you expect me to keep a clean house? And I had all boys, so I made being a mother with boys, a victim too. That’s so hard. You don’t know what it’s like to have three sons and then it would be with food. So when it came to my story around food, like I said, I had an eating disorder.

I ate for every emotion you can imagine, as happy, sad, lonely, tired, frustrated, bored, angry, you name it. I ate it. So when it came to looking in the mirror or talking to my friends, it was just like, Oh man, I can’t lose this weight. Or look at my stomach, no matter how hard I try, I just can’t be skinny enough.

So I became a victimhood in that story as well. And I’m sure many others, but those are the top three that I can think of right now of how I, and I lived there and it wasn’t a great place to live. I built up a lot under it, a lot of resentment and frustration.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:11:31] And when you were living in this cycle of victimhood, did you know that it was a result of what you had been through in the past? Like how did you make that connection and what was the almost, breaking point for you where you were like:” I can’t do this anymore. I need to get help.”

Brenda Kiss: [00:11:49] So honestly, I had no idea that I was living in victimhood because I was the positive person. That’s my circle of friends, or even my parents. They were like, Oh, Brenda’s so happy. She’s the advice giver. So I soaked my problems in food and other people’s problems, basically, because that way I didn’t have to deal with my own stuff.

And so I remember the day almost like it was yesterday, it was in May of 2000, actually, I don’t remember the year, but it was in May. And I had finally decided to go back into the workforce after having my third child. And I started to reinvest in a home business that I had at the time. And they were having a conference and I went to this conference.

And I got all dressed up. I bought a special dress for it. I got all dressed up and I went to that conference. And at four times throughout that day, four times I had four different people, ask me when I was having my fourth child. I was not pregnant nor was I having a fourth child. And so I was like, holy crap.

If I don’t get a hold of what’s going on with me. And I’m going to be really unhealthy and unhappy for the rest of my life. And I confided in a friend who had knew that I was sexually abused as a child. And she referred me to this person in this book. And this person is a master NAP, NLP practitioner, which is how I get certified through her years later.

But I actually invested in a call and I invested in myself way beyond my comfort level. Outside of college. This was the biggest investment, years ago, I’ve made bigger ones since then, but where I invested thousands of dollars in myself and quite frankly, I wasn’t working, I was a stay-at-home mom at the time and I was looking to get help.

And I just remembered that day, thinking to myself, If I don’t do something, I’m going to be here years later. It almost brings me to tears. So I knew that I had to take the risk and invest in me. So that was the best decision I ever made outside of marriage and my husband and having our three sons together.

So if I can recommend anything to anybody would be invest in yourself because you’re worth it. And you don’t know that until you actually do the investment.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:14:11] I actually think that is such an important thing for everybody to hear, especially the listeners on this podcast, because I think that trauma survivors have the hardest time investing in themselves. costs money, and we have all these feelings of shame and guilt and worthlessness and it is. And we feel like we don’t deserve it, but I know for me personally, it’s been one of the best investments I ever made in my life. And it sounds like it was the same for you.

Brenda Kiss: [00:14:49] I remember when I told my husband how much the name of this program and this investment I was gonna do. And he said to me you can be selfish and take that money for yourself or you can leave it for the children because we had just decided to homeschool our children. And I said, you know what, if I don’t invest in me, I don’t know if I’d be there for the children.

And I’m not that he was saying it to be mean, my husband’s amazing. We’ve been married. We’ve been together 19 years and married 15 years, and we have a beautiful, healthy relationship. So it wasn’t that he was being mean back then, but he was saying what we needed the money for.

So he didn’t realize how bad I was. hurting. So that’s why he said that. So that was the biggest thing. And here’s, what’s interesting. The money that I invested not only came back personally. Through me, but we had saved some of that money for our homeschool curriculum. And so when you invest in yourself, the universe has your back.

And we were able to purchase our curriculum for our kids for half the price of what we were going to spend prior to me investing in myself. I don’t know if I explained that clearly here.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:16:04] See.,That’s incredible. It is. It’s like when you invest in yourself, it comes back. It comes back. universe takes really good care of you or whatever higher power you may believe in takes. Good care of you. And not to mention the fact that your healing. Has allowed you to go on to help many others. So the work that we do for ourselves, whether or not we get into the same fields, but the work that we do on ourselves, has ripple effects.

Brenda Kiss: [00:16:42] Absolutely 110%. I had someone call me last week. Now I met this woman virtually for a long time. And then I, right before the pandemic happened, I had met her at a coffee networking meeting and literally had a conversation with her. Like just like we would have a con it wasn’t working on her or anything like that.

I was, we were in conversation and she, that was February. She literally called me yesterday and thanked me for helping change her life through our conversation. I’m like, I don’t even know what I said to you, but, okay. And so here, that’s the perfect example of what you were saying, like just where I am and who, when you come into a place of healing, And having conversations, you bring light to the world for other people to see now that people don’t always see it.

And that’s okay. But this woman solid and made monumental changes in her life.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:17:40] It has to make you feel so good.

Brenda Kiss: [00:17:44] But it makes me realize, and I think my mission here on earth is to spread the awareness of consciousness, love consciousness. So it just brings me closer to what people call God, I call love. And it just, yeah, it just feels feels

great.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:18:00] consciousness, I’ve never heard that term before. What do you mean by that?

Brenda Kiss: [00:18:04] So some people identify the universe, God, for me, it’s just love consciousness. And it means that, we’re all connected through a thread of energy. We’re all connected through whatever type of energy we want to put out into the world. So my goal and mission is to put love consciousness out into the world.

When someone reaches out to me like that, I realized that I was in that love consciousness, like in that presence of love and sharing through love.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:18:32] Gotcha. I gotcha. And of the things that I wanted to ask you is because I personally am not familiar, but what would this process look like? So let’s say one of our listeners out there wanted to contact you. What does that whole process look like in terms of what you do? The specific services that you offer, things like that.

Brenda Kiss: [00:18:57] We do an initial consultation by phone and through that consultation is called an awareness call. It helps me bring out the patterns and awareness and where the challenges are coming from. So when someone has that call , they walk away knowing where they need to put some attention and to help them bring healing and love into their life.

And so that call then goes into a process. I worked with people in two different ways. One is through Transformative Neuro-Reiki, and that’s where we to these Neuro-Reiki sessions. And those look like they’re done via online. I have done some in person, but most of them are done online. And as a combination of all different techniques that I use through my NLP and NAP certifications as well as my energy healing and understanding spirituality. So that’s the combination of all of that. And then I also have a 10 week transformational course where I help women let go of all their traumas from their past, let go of all their BS belief systems that is, and really …

Alyssa Scolari: [00:20:01] I like that.

Brenda Kiss: [00:20:04] …really let go of their fears and their traumas.

And most people don’t even know what they are. And so this course really helps the two not necessarily getting the story of what they are, just identify, so that we can heal them and move on and then really help people develop into where they want to go and set boundaries and goals and begin to create the life that they want.

Our lives are lived through our belief systems that are running in the subconscious. The subconscious minds runs most of our life, most of our agenda. And so we don’t know what that is or can’t identify what that is or program our beliefs that we want in the subconscious. Then we’re just doing stuff out of motivation.

I’m sure you come in late and you’ve been motivated to do a diet before and you do it. And then all of a sudden you self-sabotage and you stopped doing it. And that’s because there’s subconscious belief systems that say you don’t deserve to lose weight, or you don’t deserve to be healthy, or it’s not for me.

My old story was, cause I battled weight my whole life. My old story was that it was scary to be pretty. And so I associated being skinny, but pretty. So anytime that I got skinny, I would feel uncomfortable and I would put weight back on. Subconsciously not consciously. I would be like, why am I eating?

again?

You know?

Alyssa Scolari: [00:21:22] of that is the pattern of eating disorder. It’s not the putting the weight back on it’s even when you are working so hard to lose weight. All of that is the eating disorder, right? The dieting, then the putting the weight back on, so much of it is subconscious and about a lot of what’s in the subconscious. I think it’s just body hatred because we’ve been taught to hate our bodies. Our bodies have not been treated kindly in the past. So that’s the story that lives in our subconscious. That’s what we tell ourselves.

Brenda Kiss: [00:22:01] Yeah I think there’s a lot of different stories that live in the subconscious, but from my own experience, of

Alyssa Scolari: [00:22:08] Okay.

Brenda Kiss: [00:22:08] being sexually abused. My uncle used to tell me I was the pretty one, so I never wanted it to be the pretty one. And so anytime that I felt like I was the pretty one out of my friend group or whatever, I’d be really uncomfortable and have to be drunk in order to be okay.

Or I think that when you’re sexually abused, it comes down to what’s being told to you in that moment and then how it makes you feel afterwards. And then honestly, how it unfolds as you’re healing from it. I work with many clients that they were blamed for the sexual abuse by their parents. That you caused your uncle to do that, or you caused your father to do that.

And so that in of itself becomes a whole another healing. And so the body hatred that you’re speak of, for me, I don’t even know if I realize I hate it, my body I don’t even know if that was part of any of my healing. I do know that there was shame and guilt and I would say mostly shame and guilt ar around my body for sure.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:23:10] One of the things that always stands out to me, when I think of you so just for the listeners out there, Brenda, and I know each other, we live in the same town. We go to the same gym together. So I’ve known Brenda for years. And I too, as many of you guys already know, struggled with eating disorder behaviors for. 20 years minimum, and just this constant cycle of restriction and bingeing and overexercising and purging. And I remember having so much guilt and shame around my body. And I remember one time being at the gym with you and we were doing a workout somebody there, I can’t remember. I can’t remember the specifics, but there was somebody there who was basically like bashing herself.

And she kept saying Oh God, look at my stomach. This is terrible. one of the things that you said, and again, this was years ago, because this was when the gym was at the old place. this was a while back. One of the things that you said that has stuck with me, and then I think of all the time, I sink back into the body, hatred is. You told this person to her hands on her belly and thank her belly for all it does for her. I have carried that with me and it has been so healing to me. And I don’t think you even know that you didn’t even know that until right now.

Brenda Kiss: [00:24:59] Not not at all, it’s one of the things that I learned when I was going through my healing was that. My belly and my body fat and the belief systems that I had, they were there to protect me and console me and make sure I felt safe and what I was going through, my transition or transformation, it was like, I wanted to let all of that: my belly, my hips, my, the body fat, the beliefs that I had at the time that they were all…and thank you so much for keeping me feeling safe in my body for all these years, but I didn’t need it anymore. And like I had already started to reprogram my mind and belief systems, so I didn’t need it to feel safe anymore.

And in my head, I know who you’re talking about. It is, our body does exactly what we needed to do to stay safe, to stay protected, but then there’s a time when we’re ready to release that part and move on and, and we can’t until we give grace and gratitude for what we have already.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:26:04] Yes, it’s bellies and our eating disorders and whatever it is that we may hate 9 times out of 10, we develop. things to protect us. I know for me personally, my eating disorder actually kept me alive, and in some ways it was killing me, but in other ways it was keeping me alive. yeah.

When you said that it was life-changing for me, in terms of the way that I talk to my body, that was man, how many years ago was that?

Brenda Kiss: [00:26:40] I would probably say 6 to 7 years ago.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:26:44] Yup. I still take that with me

Brenda Kiss: [00:26:47] Wow. ,

Alyssa Scolari: [00:26:47] yup. So, all the work that you have done and all the work that you continue to do has ripple effects beyond I think what you even realize. So, yep, absolutely. So can you talk a little bit more about that energy shift when it comes to Reiki and why that can be so important and healing from trauma?

Brenda Kiss: [00:27:17] So our words, our beliefs, our feelings all have an energy, a vibration to it. And so what Reiki is the purest vibration of energy. It’s that love consciousness that I was talking about. It’s universal Chi. And so when we sometimes are, I’ll say in my experience, some people aren’t necessarily ready to, and I’m sure Alyssa you’ve experienced: they come for help, but they’re not quite ready to do the work or open up and be vulnerable or whatever. And it’s because there’s so many layers of energy of emotion, that’s stuck on them. And so what Reiki in my practice, this is not necessarily true for every Reiki practitioner, but the way that I use Reiki, okay.

I use it to de-layer some of that energy so that people can then become, be able to just breathe and be okay to move forward. And so when I work with people, I do the combination of it because sometimes there was a layer that comes off and then a wall that goes up, right? And so the Reiki actually helps release that wall and that energy that they have around whatever.

And it’s in a noninvasive way, it’s in a very subtle way, but super powerful. And so that’s how I use Reiki when it comes to trauma and releasing energy,.Most people that have Reiki feel really grounded and peaceful and centered. And when you live in that state, that’s actually supposed to be our normal state, grounded, centered, peaceful, happy, content.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:28:57] Yeah.

Brenda Kiss: [00:28:57] But when you are constantly in a lot of trauma, people live in a state of fight or flight. They live in a state of wary of stress, of overwhelmed, of guilt, of shame. And those energies are lower vibration. And so what happens is,the Reiki will come in and help just clear that energy at least for a bit.

And then I take the other work that I do and just reinforce the clearing by changing the mindset and doing all the reprogramming.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:29:28] It’s such an incredible way of healing. think that’s so important for trauma because any kind of trauma survivor has so many layers upon layers of defenses and energy. And if we can just get rid of that for a little while, shift that around for a little while the healing that I’m sure happen is gotta be incredible.

Brenda Kiss: [00:29:53] Yeah. Yeah. One of my clients and I didn’t even know this when she started with me , I had asked her, she’d worked with me for 10 weeks. And I said, would you feel comfortable writing me a testimonial? And she said, absolutely. So she sent me this testimonial.

It said, I was called to work with Brenda. And when I started with her, I was teetering with the decision to live or not. I had no idea that’s where she was. And then she just continued to say that, we broke down my walls and my barriers and in some, I didn’t even know I had. And she goes, and now I’m envisioning a beautiful, wonderful, something like this: a beautiful, wonderful life ahead of me through Brenda support and guidance.

That’s how I end the program, saved my life as what she said. And it’s just that’s why I do what I do.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:30:44] Yup. it’s saving lives. think the blunt sad truth of the matter is that trauma takes so many lives, whether it be by addiction, by suicide, and that’s the work that you’re doing, it’s lifesaving is what it is. And one of the last questions that I wanted to ask you is, you talk a lot about your three boys.

are a mom to three beautiful boys. How has in being a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, how has being a mom? Because one of the things you mentioned earlier is that you always wanted to be a mom. And of course it’s difficult. I think when you do become a mom, I’m sure it’s triggering in ways, but very healing in ways.

What are some ways that being a parent has helped you to heal?

Brenda Kiss: [00:31:45] That’s a good question. I feel that my kids teach me to be present and in the moment and to have fun and not always take things seriously. And from my experience that is, I believe a symptom from my trauma was, life is hard.,life is unfair, this work is important. We got to get this done. And it just gave me those belief systems and, so having children and, just being in that space of being present, like this. Looking at the little joys, especially when they were younger and they like, saw : “look at that beautiful color blue mom”, or like just the simplest things in life. And as they’ve grown, my oldest is 12 and then I have a 10 year old and almost 8 year old.

And now it’s like watching them read and tell me stories an. They know more about the Corona virus than I did when it first was coming out. And I was just like, that’s amazing. Like just being present with my children, I think is what’s been the most healing for me.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:32:52] Yeah, they keep you

Brenda Kiss: [00:32:53] Yeah, for sure.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:32:54] and they help you to appreciate the small things.

Brenda Kiss: [00:32:58] And have fun They Remind me to have fun all the time.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:33:01] Yup. Kids are the best at that.

Brenda Kiss: [00:33:06] For my stuff, I could easily get lost in the work that I do because I love it so much. And then just responsibilities and I look at my kids and they’re like, can we play this? And I’m like I gotta clean the house. And I’m like, no, we can play, like learning to be in the moment.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:33:22] Because you know what? can clean that

Brenda Kiss: [00:33:25] That’s right. Yeah. It’s not going going anywhere.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:33:28] we’ll

Brenda Kiss: [00:33:29] The Kids on the other hand, are going to get older and move out one day.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:33:33] Exactly. Exactly. So can you talk about, because we have an exciting offer for you guys. You want to talk a little bit about your ebook?

Brenda Kiss: [00:33:44] Yes. I, as I said, I went through this big transformation a few years ago and yeah. I literally wrote this book on a plane ride home from Texas. It just was pouring out of me. And what I wanted to offer was a, I love to read, but like I said, I’m a mom of three kids and I was homeschooling at the time.

And my time to read was very far and few in between. So I really wanted to write a powerful, simple book that was a game changer. And so all of the tools, I won’t say all because I’m constantly learning and growing, but a lot of the tools that I use with my clients I wrote into in a 30 day book.

And this book is available for all your listeners and it’s 30 Days. And it gives you different tools every day to utilize. So one day you might focus on drinking water. One day, you might focus on being grounded one day, you might focus on meditation and it gives you all these different tools. And the idea is to find that ones work for you.

And then implement them in your daily life. It’s downloadable and they can read it and implement it.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:34:47] That is so cool and so helpful because it’s like guide of exactly what people can focus on with regards to their healing. And I think it helps the healing process seem not so overwhelming because it can be really overwhelming at times.

Brenda Kiss: [00:35:04] just simple tasks to help you feel better in the moment.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:35:08] And where can they find this at? Your website,

right

Brenda Kiss: [00:35:13] Yes, they can get

Alyssa Scolari: [00:35:13] isn’t listed on the

link

Brenda Kiss: [00:35:15] it is, yeah, they can go to brendakiss.com and there’s a free ebook offer there and they can download it there.

Alyssa Scolari: [00:35:22] Perfect. And guys, I will link the ebook on the show notes for this episode. It will also be on website. It will be on the Facebook page and it will also be on the newsletter that I send out. So no worries about how to find it. You will have plenty of options, but definitely go check that out. And thank you so much for talking to me today.

It’s been a pleasure. I learned a lot and yeah. Thank

Brenda Kiss: [00:35:55] Thank you. Thank you so much. And I’m so excited and happy for you and your endeavors here.